Okay, I want to start this by saying that while Endless Summer is my favorite book due to emotional attachment
(Yeah, this is no longer the case as of October 31st, ROD GOAT) I still think that Ride or Die comfortably surpasses it and every other Choices story when it comes to writing quality. I've been consuming some truly kino media like Steins;Gate, The Last of Us Part II and Better Call Saul in the past few months but seeing that the tumblr side of the fandom was having a ROD Appreciation Week made me have the book constantly wrestling for time in my mind along all those other things that I greatly enjoyed (Obviously, I'm not trying to imply this is anywhere near the same level of quality as these other pieces, cause that'd just be stupid) but yeah, I've been wanting to talk in depth about why I hold Ride or Die in such high regard for a long time now, so this post is for me, for anyone else that might be big fans of the book or even for people that didn't like it and don't understand why it's a fan favorite. It's also my late, not proofread contribution to the appreciation week since I can't really draw for shit.
PREMISE AND THEMES Quick summary, it’s a story about growing up and finding oneself that focuses on an 18 year old girl in her last weeks of high school that joins a criminal crew without even realizing it due to her sheltered life making her feel like she missed out on her teenage years for the past 5 years since, after her mother’s death, her dad became incredibly protective of her. As she grows attached to the crew she gets deeply immersed in their world until she realizes what the pursue of freedom, fast cars and bad boys/girls truly entails. Of course, you all know that.
So, themes. Most Choices stories don’t have any big, noticeable theme that encompasses the entire story they’re trying to tell, which is completely fine since you can still write a good, compelling story without it
(Unless you’re David Benioff). Of course, while not necessary, overarching themes elevate a story a lot more in my eyes if executed properly and I feel like Ride or Die excels at it. And what are these themes? Well, obviously, it’s up to every individual’s interpretation but to me the three biggest stand outs are freedom, obviously; the choice between someone’s own past and future; and how the typical Bad Boy Romance is not always the cheesy, idealized life most of us are used to. I’ll explain how the story presents these themes in the following segments.
ELLIE WHEELER, aka THE MC I’ve raved about her at almost every chance I get because I feel like I can make a pretty compelling argument as to why she’s the best MC and one of the best characters PB’s ever written, but it’s about time I finally sat down to properly explain this stance. I might refer to her as Ellie at times instead of MC since I just don’t like having an essay this big and introspective and just referring to her as MC, even if I didn’t actually keep her default name myself.
So, let’s start from what most of the ROD MC masterrace knows about, she’s different from 95% of the MCs. She has a clear goal, a clear personality and, one of the most rare traits in MCs, her dad’s an actual character and he has an actual relationship with her. She’s also far from perfect, she’s an incredibly smart young woman that lacks “street” knowledge and as she gets in deeper and deeper with the MPC, her previous and new relationships suffer because of it, because she doesn’t know how to juggle both sides of her life. The hardships Ellie has to face are both products of the environment she lives in and a product of her mistakes, which acts as a nice balance so that she doesn’t come of as a bumbling idiot that fucks up everything for everyone and an overly perfect protagonist who’s only flaw is that the world just plots against her so that there can be a story to tell.
Her goal is a pretty simple one, she wants to go to Langston university, her dream school. The thing that stands out to me is how she never betrays her dream and it’s always present in the back of her mind, well, technically you can choose to skip out on all of her classes but that always seemed really out of character to me, so I’m not really taking that into account, since she expresses that she loves to learn and she sees it as a challenge to be better than herself from yesterday. She manages to involve Logan into her school life so she isn’t fully distracted from her studies and even when she’s living on the Gramercy Garage, she still finds time to study for her finals. Even when everything goes to shit and she starts losing sight of who she is, Logan, Colt and Mona know that being a criminal is not the life she’s meant to live and it isn’t until after prom that she realizes who she really is. There’s so many choices throughout the story that, while ultimately not relevant to the outcome, I feel can add a lot of character to her if you’re willing to “headcanon” a bit, so minor things such as picking the color of her car due to it being the same as Logan’s or the one Colt or Mona suggested, choosing to listen to rap music as she’s driving the MPC around since it can be seen as a rebellious sort of music that her dad probably wouldn’t have approved of, treating Brent’s party invitation as something of no importance to her, getting a tattoo… wait this one’s supposed to be big, why does no one acknowledge it dammit? Then there’s also some bigger choices such as her being able to tell Riya that she’s most excited about being able to leave LA on the first chapter or being able to choose to stay with Logan and help him fight Salazar, choosing to focus on her studies even when living with the MPC, and so on.
Now, how is she tied to the themes I mentioned above? Well, it’s clear that her desire for freedom and independence is what initially leads her to want to be a part of the MPC’s life, when Kaneko brought her to the garage for the first time she didn’t quite see them as criminals, but as people that lived as they wanted and were still, well, humans. She’s constantly seeking her own freedom from her dad’s overbearing presence and from her own boring life and she achieves it twice, one is the fake freedom she got when she ran away after her dad found out about her involvement with the MPC and the second one is what I like to think of as her true freedom. The definition of true freedom is tied to the second theme I mentioned, the choice between past and future, after the Brotherhood attacks her and her LI after prom she realizes that she can no longer try to keep on living both lives, the nerdy valedictorian girl and the criminal that gets a thrill by being behind the wheel, the inability to choose between one and the other is what initially landed her into that mess and it’s only by finally choosing that she’s able to get herself and everyone else from the MPC out. It’s a very unique way of showing a character being strong, she got herself out of the mess she herself helped cause and she did it without the conventional strengths of MCs such as being a warrior queen, a part of an alien entity that transcends time or a literal vampire.
Ultimately, she chose to embrace her future (And her past, in a roundabout way), her long time dream, which meant letting go of the life and people that once made her feel so free and alive and by doing so, she got the freedom she desired so much while also finding who she truly was and what she valued in life. That’s also tied to the third main theme I mentioned, in the end she couldn’t keep on living an idealized version of the bad boy romance where you get to keep a good life out of living on the wrong side of the law and while I could definitely go more in depth about how she embodies this theme, I’ll do that when I talk about other characters, since I’ve already talked about about Ellie a lot.
LOGAN The cover boy, the boy with the car, the “bad boy”, the mandatory “good boi” LI, the only Love Interest that has managed to rival Quinn Kelly in terms of how much I love them. I feel like the love for all 3 LIs is mostly evenly distributed on this sub but I’ve definitely seen some people say that Logan is kinda boring compared to Colt and Mona and honestly, that just couldn’t be further from the truth in my mind. Prepare for another long ass analysis.
Being a fan of the anime/manga series Attack on Titan has made me gain a great, great appreciation for story recontextualization and that narrative element is exactly what Logan brings to the story at the end of Chapter 10 and boy, did Luke and the team knock that shit out of the park with how they implemented that tool into their story. ROD Ch. 10 is notorious for being the chapter that officially turned the book from an initially hated book that people were slowly warming up to, to a current fan favorite as far as online communities are concerned, seriously, you can look up the discussion for that chapter in the search bar and the first comment you’ll see if someone taking back everything negative they said about the book and then it’s just constant praising for the next 6 weeks. Why did all of that happen? Because of how much starts making sense or becoming clearer because of the reveal that Logan initially started dating (?) MC because he was trying to get whatever intel her dad had on them from her, seriously, everything becomes so clear after the end of the chapter, everything starts falling into place like a carefully crafted Lego build, be it for the stories’ themes or for characterization of characters like Colt, Mona, Kaneko, Jason and Logan himself.
Let’s focus on Logan for now though. A couple of chapters in, as we start learning more about his life, we can see that Logan is someone that’s never truly had someone in his life that could show him true human love and bonds, the closest he has to that prior to Ellie is his “cousin” Vaughn. Initially, it seems like a weak attempt at making the titular bad boy seem like a layered character, specially since he seemingly just fell for a random girl that literally stumbled upon him on a high school parking lot, but in reality the reason his fake interest in Ellie started to become reality was exactly because of the lack of proper, meaningful connections, which we couldn’t have known until after Colt reveals the truth. As we know, Logan always had the mentality that, no matter how good a crew might be, he should always be ready to bail when the heat is too much, that’s a philosophy that he adopted and he knows that any criminal that’s as good as him will share the same sentiment, which proves to be the case when the MPC immediately disbands after Kaneko’s death... but Ellie isn’t a hardened, professional criminal, she’s a girl that, while certainly enamored by the allure of their life, still sees them as people, not as mere means to an end that are just fun to hang out with, which is why she doesn’t run away after the escape from the mall or the encounter with Salazar’s crew at the drive-in cinema, that’s not something Logan thinks people are capable of, why would such a saint of a girl not get away from them after things like that?
That’s when Logan’s guilt enters the scene. He tries to undo what he now considers to have been a great mistake since he’s slowly catching real feelings for the girl that was just supposed to spill all of Detective Wheeler’s info and leave them as soon as she realized how dangerous their life was, but how is he supposed to do that now when doing so would mean losing this person that’s so incredibly unique in his world? We see how his guilt starts weighing on him more and more as the story progresses, until he almost does something very stupid by almost revealing the truth right before the stadium job, so he probably wouldn’t have lasted much without revealing it but, for better or worse, Colt was the one that did it for him and once again Logan turns Ellie’s whole world upside down. For the rest of the book, he does everything in his power to show her that, while he was lying in the beginning, he actually did come to care for her a lot (even if his actions might’ve pushed her into the arms of Colt or Mona, or at least acted as the final push in their routes).
After the MPC disbanded there was only one person I could see appearing on Riya’s doorstep when I played through ROD during release and that was Logan, because it just made all the sense in the world in my mind. Backtracking a bit, we know from his two diamond scenes on the early chapters that Logan dropped out of high school but he always liked to learn about random stuff, hence him reading while on the road, and that he always toyed with the idea of going back (He also says that he’d probably be graduating that year if he hadn’t dropped out, which tells us that he’s the youngest of the 3 LIs, which is a neat detail), so I always saw that as him showing up not just for Ellie’s sake but also for himself in a way, since it’d be a good way to live out the life he never had, even if just for a few hours. Speaking of prom night, I absolutely adore how when he tells Ellie he loves her, she can reply with “Logan… no you don’t.” since it’s only natural she wouldn’t believe him 100% since not only did they get together through a web of lies spun by him and Kaneko, but because as far as she knows, Logan can’t possibly know what real love feels like.
Fast forward to the final chapter and it’s time for the MPC to go their own ways, for real this time, to avoid getting entangled with the FBI and, even if Logan wasn’t your actual LI he still shows that he’s completely accepting of the fact that he isn’t the one Ellie loves, and on both cases he shows that he also grew to truly love her by deciding to not be a part of her life any more, because it just isn’t feasible for her to pursue her dreams while also being involved with potential suspects on the FBI watch list, so he chooses her future over his because he can’t and he won’t let her risk her future for something as small as a space rock lucky enough to burn up in her atmosphere for a moment and with that, a heartfelt kiss, an explicit and tacit declaration of love, a request for Troublemaker to give ‘em hell and a brief but tense showdown with Detective Wheeler, Logan speeds off into the night.
COLT KANEKO The actual leather wearing bad boy of the story that sauntered his way into the hearts of many fans, both as a character and a love interest, he’s sarcastic, he’s funny, he’s soft-ish only with the MC and he’s also a multilayered character, how could he not be liked? I want to preface this section by saying that, just like with really popular LIs such as Jake Mackenzie, Damien Nazario or Ethan Ramsey, I could never bring myself to like Colt in a romantic way, even though I can certainly see the appeal of their route but even then, just like the aforementioned gentlemen, he’s still one of my favorite characters of the series regardless of that, simply because of how much he brings to the table. So without further ado, let’s get started with Mr. “Christ, who caaares?” Kaneko’s unnecessarily long essay.
Right off the bat we can see that Colt has a bone to pick with Logan due to their relationship with Kaneko, he’s always butting heads with Logan and Kaneko at the beginning because he resents both, the latter for sending him away to college and not being willing to let him in on the family business and the former for, in his eyes, being the son Kaneko always wanted, not knowing that the only reason his dad kept him away from the business and seemingly replaced him with Logan was because if Jason actually harmed the MPC he could live with the loss of Logan on his conscience, but not Colt’s. As time goes on Colt finds himself slowly warming up to Ellie, even if he initially just thinks of her as one of his dad’s mistakes waiting to blow up in their faces, and even if he does relentlessly teases/annoys her it’s very obvious that he can connect with her because of her complicated relationship with her dad and she can understand him, they both love their dads immensely but they severely disagree on the view they have of their respective child. And against Colt’s predictions, Ellie proves herself as a valuable asset to the crew (Not knowing until later on just how deep that rang true) and he eventually starts falling for her as well, which is what sets the Chapter 10 plot twist in motion.
After the MPC manages to steal the super cars for the Brotherhood, Kaneko opens up to the idea of letting Colt into the business, since it’s clear he won’t just pack up and leave for college anymore, especially after Kaneko is shot and threatened by the Brotherhood and he has to rely on Colt’s plan of kidnapping one of their members and at some point he reveals the truth about their current situation to his son, where Colt finds out about the truth behind Logan and Ellie but it isn’t until after the stadium heist that he makes shit hit the fan by starting a fight with Logan and spilling his secret. That always seemed to me that it came from a place that’s equal parts being mad at Logan for using Ellie like that but also him seeing it as a petty opportunity to sow discord between them, which is why she later has the choice to unload on Colt for deliberately keeping the truth to himself until the right moment. This also marks the moment where the somewhat toxic, somewhat supportive, somewhat wholesome and entirely complicated romantic relationship between them can start to flourish, since Ellie obviously doesn’t see Logan in the exact same way she did 24 hours before and depending on the player, she could’ve actually started to develop her relationship with Colt (Or Mona) prior to the reveal.
Something I haven’t seen being mentioned about Colt’s arc is how him being misjudged and misunderstood by both Ellie and Kaneko plays a huge role in it. After Ellie leaves the MPC, he decides to put the rest of his plan in motion, luring The Brotherhood into an illegal casino’s vault using the member they kidnapped and kill them via gassing. Toby completely disagrees with their actions and decides to recruit Ellie to help him stop the crew from crossing a line that they seemingly haven’t crossed yet, yes they’re criminals but much like Ellie’s initial impression of them, they’re not psychos and much less murderers, they’re still good people; so she sets out to stop them with the help of Toby and a Logan that’s desperate for atonement, but her biggest mistake was assuming that Colt isn’t the kind of person that can kill another person if it means protecting those he cares about. This is where it gets incredibly interesting and compelling to me, since not only does her misjudge of character ruin Colt’s entire plan but there’s also the possibility that she had been working for Jason and the Brotherhood the whole time, so in some cases they might’ve actually escaped the trap
directly because of her and it doesn’t stop there, since as a result the MPC lose their entire advantage and are once again being targeted by The Brotherhood and that directly leads to not only another huge reveal from Kaneko’s part but also his death, him sacrificing himself so that the crew could escape as he let’s Colt know that he wishes for him to just let go of this life and do something better for himself. Before the rest of the MPC reunites at Gramercy Park, Colt tells Ellie how he plans to kill them all, to rebuild the garage and kill them all before finally breaking down on her arms as his loss catches up to him, right before the Mercy Park Crew splits up after their loss against Jason.
In the end, the two people Colt cared about the most failed at truly understanding him, his dad kept him at an arm’s length for a long time, missing out on time with his son because he never considered the fact that what he wanted for Colt was not what he wanted for himself, despite of all the risks it might entail, and Ellie played a part in Kaneko’s death by not realizing that Colt would be willing to cross such a fucked up line if it meant protecting the people and legacy he cared about so much. Those two factors play a huge role in the rest of the book since they’re the reasons why Colt is pushed dangerously close to a downward spiral that will most definitely only bring him more pain at the end of the book. After Jason is dealt with, he laments the fact that he and Ellie met under such circumstances and not in a classroom where they could annoy each other and become friends and/or significant others but he doesn’t lament his current situation, he’s dead set on becoming the king of LA, on carrying on his father’s legacy, now more than ever. I’d argue Colt Kaneko is the biggest cautionary tale in this book about the dangers of the often glorified life of the bad boys and fast cars and how it can consume you, he was very special to Ellie and Kaneko but they didn’t fully understand who he was, how he was shaped by his ideal future and they couldn’t see how the most important thing for him was his past, his legacy and as a result, he’s alone against a dangerous world, but that’s a danger that he very much welcomes.
If any of you have done Colt’s romance route and feel like I missed out on anything, do let me know in the comments, I feel like my appreciation for him only grew more as I wrote his section.
MONA The bad girl, the loner, what even is her real name? I’m also going to dedicate an analysis to her but I also want to direct you to a
post from a few months ago by user
u/elbenji who has reviewed ROD from a WLW perspective that I think you should also check out if you’ve got the time. Anyway, Mona’s turn.
So, who’s Mona? Well, she’s kind of the Drake Walker of the book, which is a role that you don’t usually see being filled by a female LI. She doesn’t seem to like anyone, she’s pessimistic, she rarely misses the chance to mock people, she’s damn good at her job and she’s loyal to no one but herself, to some she might actually be the worse person of the 3 LIs during the early chapters but as everything else in this book, the layers to her start to show the more the story advances. She shares Logan’s worldview of everyone only being out for themselves but unlike Logan, she knows that not everyone is necessarily like that but in her eyes those people are in for a rude awakening from the world at some point for being dumb enough to think that they can count on someone else and that’s why she’s borderline condescending towards Ellie when the topic of interpersonal relationships comes up between them.
If Colt is shaped by his future, Mona is shaped by her past. Once upon a time she used to be little Miss Perfect like Ellie, honor roll, on the path to valedictorian, the whole thing, until she met a girl that she fell in love with, a criminal that made her enjoy life to its fullest and ended up becoming her whole world until one day they got caught and were taken to interrogation separately where Mona, fully trusting of her partner, lied about their involvement but was still arrested because her girlfriend ended up giving her up in exchange of freedom. That event shaped Mona’s entire philosophy, when it came down to it, people would always put themselves above everyone else and after Kaneko gave her back her freedom that’s the only code she stuck by, her own personal freedom and survival became the most important thing in Mona’s life, even when the man that saved her was in danger she considered multiple times to just leave the MPC to their luck. That is, until she met Ellie Wheeler.
Obviously, in typical Pixelberry fashion, Mona doesn’t have as much screen time as her male counterparts but what she lacks in screen time she more than makes up in both narrative and thematic relevancy. As mentioned previously, Mona’s always reminding Ellie how out of her depth she is and treating her like a dumb girl that doesn’t know what she’s doing (Which, to a certain extent, is true) but when shit goes south after the stadium heist it turns out that she’s the only LI that never actually played with Ellie’s feelings and was always straight (Heh) with her. It's things like this that I love immensely about ROD, the 3 love interests have so many layers to them, they do good and bad things and they feel like actual people that exist in this fictional Los Angeles, their actions are a product of what’s established as their characters, not just as stuff that happens because the plot needs it to. Back on track, just like with Colt, this is the point where Ellie and Mona’s relationship really takes off if the player chooses to and unlike Colt, her going after Ellie feels like it comes off from a place of actual concern since she understands what she’s going through, regardless of whether their relationship is platonic or not at that point, she still sees a girl that feels like she’s got no one left that she can trust in, so she takes it upon herself to be there for her, slowly shedding her walls that she’s put up for so long, probably without even realizing it.
After the failed job at the casino, Mona once again contemplates leaving the MPC in the middle of the shit storm but Ellie manages to get her to help since she owes Kaneko that much at the very least, only for her to find out a few minutes later that Kaneko knew The Brotherhood were corrupt cops from the beginning and never confided in them with that information and, in another cruel twist of fate, Kaneko ends up sacrificing himself so that Ellie, Logan, Colt and Mona could run away, once again, giving Mona her freedom even after completely betraying her trust. As the MPC discuss their course of action after that, she breaks and let’s out what’s probably my favorite quote in Choices:
”You wanted freedom? The fast cars, the bad boy, that whole life? This is it… and it’s not for you. Go home, for everyone’s sake.”, in that moment she let’s the entire pressure of the situation get to her and unleashes on Ellie, the main reason why they’re all in that whole mess. It’s an incredibly cathartic quote that perfectly encapsulates what ROD is all about, the criminal life is not something one can just juggle as if it were a part time job that’s there for the thrills, it can only lead to a life that most people, if presented with the choice, would never want for themselves. When I read that for the first time I completely forgot that I was just reading a story on a free Visual Novel app where you’d never expect to find writing of such quality. I can perfectly feel Mona’s anguish and anger in that quote, the whole weight of the events of the book finally come crashing down on us after we read those words and it’s just such a great feeling that I’ll never stop praising.
Let’s get to prom night though, much like Mona going after Ellie on Chapter 11, I feel like her showing up for her prom is still really fitting and the diamond scene that follows after is arguably the best wlw dirty thirty in the app, the dialogue during it is just top tier to be honest. But even better than it to me is the scene after that, where she decides to join The Brotherhood if it means Ellie gets to run away from them since they’re obviously looking to tie up lose ends, it is especially hard hitting if she’s your LI but the version with Colt or Logan is still amazing and I especially love how she uses the hot wiring skills Mona taught her to run away. After the Mercy Park Crew’s last ride together, Mona ends up taking a bullet for the girl that reminded her so much of herself and as Ellie drives her to the hospital she talks about how hard she’s going to be to forget, before reaching the hospital and walking herself inside, knowing that she’d be imprisoned once again before the day is over. I’ve seen a fair share of people that were unhappy with Mona having to deal with such harsh consequences but I personally love, love the end of her route since Mona’s always been about self preservation and only being there for herself but meeting Ellie gets her to slip, she starts caring for her and in the end chooses to give up on her freedom if it means Ellie gets to walk away with hers, in a way being for Ellie the complete opposite of what her ex-girlfriend was to her all those years ago (The dramatic irony can be turned to 11 if you choose the options that show her slowly adopting Mona’s philosophy during the final chapters, so she can slowly become more cynical as Mona slowly sheds her cynicism). In the end, Mona might not be free but she’s still on her element, she’ll be on a place where she’d have to count only on herself and while she’ll definitely have to face some time for her crimes, I’m pretty sure she’d thrive in prison.
End of Part 1 Okay, I initially wanted to talk about the supporting characters as well but this shit is truly living up to its title at almost 5K words, that’s already a decently sized one shot, so I’ll stop here since I still want to post it close to the appreciation week, though I might make some edits here and there as I reread it later on but I'm too lazy to do that right now. If I see there’s a good reception for a stupidly long post like this I’ll probably get to work on the second part where I talk about Kaneko, Jason, Detective Wheeler, Toby, Ximena and Riya and Darius, as well as maybe analysis for other books that I hold in really high regard such as the Endless Summer trilogy, Open Heart or It Lives Beneath. If you actually made it all the way here, I just want to thank you for taking the time of your day for reading my semi-coherent thoughts and definitely let me know what you think, if you agree, if you disagree, if you think I should go outside, etc. Thank you for your attention.
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Even back then she wasn't attractive
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Maybe because children are the lowest on the priority because they are the most immune? What kind of stupid headline is this?
ge20fme in worldnews on 29 Nov 20 (1pts):
It's okay because they didn't die from the Corona virus, as we all know in 2020 that is the only immoral way to die.
gdyhn0w in news on 29 Nov 20 (1pts):
They said we were supposed to be at 400,000 deaths by this time already, I guess they're still waiting for the deaths to "double".
gdxl4ut in greentext on 28 Nov 20 (1pts):
It seems like everybody else had parents like this, nearly all of my friends did, and I would always wonder what was wrong with mine for being so frugal. Now I realize that they were just smarter...
gdxbyqu in PS4 on 28 Nov 20 (1pts):
I believe mine is the second model, IE the one that doesn't sound like an airplane.
gdx4byf in OldSchoolCool on 28 Nov 20 (1pts):
Look son, a karma whore
gdwv1df in nextfuckinglevel on 28 Nov 20 (1pts):
It's interesting how you hear these days about how people quote-unquote lack education yet managed to graduate in the top 5%, I think that shows that education is broken more than anything.
gdwhljz in news on 28 Nov 20 (1pts):
Bingo. There's already plenty of land designated to them and they just turn it into complete degeneracy full of casinos and alcoholics. Yeah there's that beautiful culture that liberals talk about...
gdt9x7m in worldnews on 27 Nov 20 (1pts):
Nah, you're not a traitor like Snowden.
gdt94up in worldnews on 27 Nov 20 (1pts):
1967: Dire Famine Forecast By...
gdssizm in todayilearned on 27 Nov 20 (1pts):
Does this apply to millennials that use the word literally wrong all the time as well?
gdmq8bt in greentext on 26 Nov 20 (1pts):
y'all
Stop fucking saying this
gdm6mki in reactiongifs on 26 Nov 20 (1pts):
Now you know how we feel when Columbus day comes around.
gdm3kxq in PS5 on 26 Nov 20 (1pts):
Why do people keep falling for the grift, there is zero, and I repeat, zero point in buying early tech. there is always some sort of technical problem, PS3 had the yellow light of death, PS4 had...
gdk67md in PS5 on 25 Nov 20 (1pts):
I really don't get the hype, this is the most bland, underwhelming, console of all time. They could have just made PS4 pro 2.
gdjwgtk in books on 25 Nov 20 (1pts):
https://www.quora.com/Did-ghostwriters-help-Obama-write-his-autobiographical-books-Dreams-from-My-Father-and-The-Audacity-of-Hope
That was literally 5 seconds of Google dude.
gdjtm6q in greentext on 25 Nov 20 (1pts):
You really have no idea how monotonous this gets, There's entire stories written about men who commit suicide because they do the same boring job then come back to the same How was your day dear...
gdjsfxt in OldSchoolCool on 25 Nov 20 (1pts):
Wew lad
gdiazuo in movies on 25 Nov 20 (1pts):
I didn't read the article, but if it didn't say that tangled was much more wholesome and less preachy towards SJWism, then it's a worthless article.
gdhxc1l in greentext on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
No, he is right and the sooner you get past that cringe mindset the better.
gdhqtq6 in DemocraticSocialism on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
Oh thanks another libtard sub to block. Get fucked, commies.
gdhn2dn in MovieDetails on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
SJW porn.
gdhcpu2 in greentext on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
The trick is to use Reddit to make fun of the people that make it shit. I'll routinely show stuff to my friends that gets me massively downvoted and they'll wonder what the hell is wrong with these...
gdgjwmz in InternetIsBeautiful on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
Virtue signal received.
gdg9mz4 in greentext on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
Don't dish it if you can't take it. Also quit being so invested in these, all 4chan posts are fake everybody knows that
gdfrktt in HumansBeingBros on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
puns
Cringe
gdfjhed in worldnews on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
Nobody cares about animals dude. Cry somewhere else
gdeaxgl in todayilearned on 24 Nov 20 (1pts):
Hood parents aren't exactly known for good parenting. Although at least he was around I guess.
gde7trx in space on 24 Nov 20 (0pts):
It's about time we start shooting down their spacecrafts until they stop genociding Muslims and free Hong Kong. And if you find that to be offensive you need to reevaluate your life and everything...
gddfdy3 in books on 23 Nov 20 (1pts):
How dare a muslim writer not be woke in 2003
gdd3ykk in OldSchoolCool on 23 Nov 20 (1pts):
And then you grew up to become the worst admin on Reddit.
submitted by | Upon their arrival to the MCU, the X-Men require personalities & traits to give them depth and preventing them from becoming one-dimensional & simplistic. X-Men's powers & action won't create an interesting story or film. So, this thread is how I would imagine key X-Men in character. Cyclops: Establish Cyclops as the Team Leader. Showcase him in this role by attributing quality leadership qualities: Bravery, confidence, selflessness & focus. Cyclops is a master tactician/strategist, knowing the strengths & weaknesses of the X-Men & being capable of identifying the weaknesses of his adversaries. Cyclops is an effective military leader, so he should showcase actions to represent this: Formulating plans, devising strategies, defining objectives, assigning roles to the rest of the team. Based on his selfless nature, he values each member of the X-Men ensuring their safety at all times. Regarding his personality, Cyclops is an introvert. Labelled as a freak due to his mutation, his experiences led to the development of a shy, serious, emotionally distant character refraining from social interaction often. While he may be an effective leader, outside of missions, he is mostly portrayed as the distant loner who tends to himself most of the time. Despite the X-Men respecting him as an effective leader & declaring him as their friend, his immense seriousness makes him unpopular on the team because of his strict, authoritative "by the book" approach. Alternatively, Jean is the only individual he is emotionally associated with. While Cyclops can be described as boring, it's with Jean that any form of interesting personality can be drawn out. Typically, Cyclops is more relaxed with Jean & casual, showcasing their relationship. It can develop from a friendship to relationship, if they were to show the X-Men as younger ages. Jean Grey: Similar to the comics & TV shows, Jean will be portrayed as the friendly, outgoing, compassionate member of the team. As the empathetic, caring individual of the team she acts as the motherly figure of the X-Men, always willing to aid the rest of the X-Men & others in need as her role as a superhero. However, this compassionate, motherly attitude is found to be "smothering" for certain X-Men, mainly Shadowcat because Kitty prefers not to be treated as a child. While Jean is a confident character, this instead can transition into arrogance as she doesn't always follow Cyclops' orders or offer her own alternatives or input during missions. Cyclops & Jean Grey = Couple. They're in love they care for each other. From the beginning, they should always have been dating. Simply avoid Wolverine-Jean Grey-Cyclops Love Triangle. Develop the Storm & Jean Grey friendship. Like the comics, Storm & Jean Grey need to be best friends. Showcase Storm & Jean as an effective duo during missions: https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111317269/6522596-1673536281-17897.jpg. Activities to present their friendship: Hanging Out. Shopping. Partying. (Maybe): https://41.media.tumblr.com/17bbd59f684275481f995210843d0822/tumblr_n8tn879QZw1r21mbxo1_400.jpg. Storm: The casual member of the X-Men, who occasionally leads the team in Cyclops' place. Cyclops is more strict & demanding as the team leader adhering to a militaristic ("Do what I say...") approach to the team. However, unlike Cyclops, Storm is more casual & easy-going making her a more friendly character in the franchise.In the comics, Storm has developed friendships Jean Grey, Shadowcat & Colossus & Nightcrawler easily, so making her a friendly character makes sense. Repeating myself, Storm & Jean Grey = Best Friends. Since Storm entered the country, Jean Grey was 1st & best friend. To develop her character further; potentially, include aspects of Storm's claustrophobia, to make her more character interesting. For example, in a possible scenario: Magneto could be escaping & the X-Men are close to apprehending him but he then encloses the team in a metallic trap, which triggers Storm's claustrophobia & causes her to become traumatized & lose control. Maybe, Storm overcoming her claustrophobia could be a highlight of the MCU. Beast: The main character trait of Beast, in all X-Men media, is his genius intelligence. Therefore, Beast's greatest asset can be his scientific mind. Fox portrayed Beast's role as the "Brains" of the X-Men quite well, so Nicholas Hoult's performance could act as a template for MCU Beast. As the scientific genius of the X-Men, Beast has a wide array of knowledge in various scientific fields, including: biology, genetics, medicine, chemistry, physics, electronics & engineering. Therefore, as a method of showcasing his scientific expertise, Beast can be the developer of the X-Men's equipment & resources. For example, he will have designed Cerebro, X-Jet, X-Men's costumes (Like in First Class), Cyclops' visor etc. If the plot of the film requires a Macguffin, Beast is the developer of this item. Highlight Beast's intelligence via quirks & feats. The following have been shown in comics: Beast is a computer genius. Beast is fluent in several languages including English, German, French, Latin, Spanish, Japanese, Arabic, Russian & Latverian; This would be interesting to tie the X-Men & the Fantastic Four. Beast enjoys showing off his extensive vocabulary in long, complex sentences & occasionally, quotes literature, historical texts or random facts to showcase his knowledge. Jubilee (Cameos DON'T Count): Jubilee is the sassy, overconfident, extravagant teenager. Jubilee is talkative, sarcastic, edgy teenager who acts "cool" to fit in with the rest of the crowd. As a teenager, Jubilee could have a " scenester" personality, who just follows the crowd. Essentially, make Jubilee the stereotypical teenager. Outside of this, Jubilee acts similar to Shadowcat because they both act as spunky teenagers trying to prove themselves worthy upon the X-Men team. Potentially, include Jubilee as Wolverine's protege, as well as Shadowcat so Jubilee can have a prominent role in the MCU X-Men franchise. Shadowcat: Stated as the "kid sister" of the X-Men by the older members, she'll constantly feel that because she's one of the youngest members she isn't taken so seriously. Nevertheless, Shadowcat is an intelligent, sensible, mature character who's ready to complete the mission regardless of the stakes, consequences or opinions of the other X-Men. Shadowcat just desires to prove she can be as valuable a member to the X-Men as any other mutant. As a result, Shadowcat doesn't like being mollycoddled or treated as a child by the rest of the X-Men, especially Storm & Jean Grey. In the comics, Kitty is mainly a character with a very limited capacity for nonsense, as she is more focused on her career as an X-Man. In addition to her powers, Shadowcat is a genius-level expert in computer science, potentially being taught by Beast. However, occasionally, Kitty can act childish. Particularly, Kitty acts childish if the other X-Men overlook her or if she thinks a situation is unfair & she begins whining. For example, in the comics, she started whining about "Professor X being a jerk" when he demoted her from the X-Men to the New Mutants. As the "kid sister" of the X-Men, Kitty should be on close terms with the rest of the team. As per the comics, Kitty could be Wolverine's protege, which she enjoys because she feels as if she's an official X-Man now. Storm could be Kitty's favourite X-Man because they had a mother-daughter relationship as Storm is overly-protective of her. Kitty has good relationships with Nightcrawler, Colossus, Jubilee, Iceman & especially, with Magik (Shadowcat's best friend). Iceman: Introduce him as the "Comedian." Typically, Iceman is carefree, reckless & immature who enjoys playing practical jokes on others as a form of attention-seeking. This behaviour, infamously, dubs Bobby as the "class clown." This behaviour places him at odds with many of the other X-Men because they are irritated by his antics. In addition to his comedic character, I would make him Shadowcat's age like in the Fox films because his immaturity would be more understandable as a teenager. In addition to being a comedian, I would introduce Iceman as a bisexual. In the comics, Bobby is stated he has been in homosexual relationships, in addition to relationships with female characters. So, this makes him bisexual. In Deadpool 2, Yukio & Negasonic Teenage Warhead are introduced as a couple. It's accepted they're in a relationship & the audience has moved on. If Iceman were to be introduced as bisexual, this shouldn't become his entire character. Since Kevin Feige stated that diversity is a new point in the MCU, so the introduction of an Iceman as a bisexual mutant could be included as part of that. Nightcrawler: Nightcrawler (Kurt Wagner) is the fun-loving, spirited, eccentric jokester. Similar to Iceman, Nightcrawler is a comedic character with a great sense of humour. He's described as adventurous & swashbuckling, so this could be part of an attention-seeking personality. He was part of the circus, so I believe that he is a character that enjoys being in the spotlight of events & is quite flamboyant & dramatic. His costume could be a template of his personality. He, occasionally, plays pranks on people. Using his teleportation abilities, he is known to play elaborate jokes on others. Overall, his main character trait should be comedian. He is quite adventurous & swashbuckling, so if the MCU X-Men were to do any fantasy or adventurous films, Excalibur or Savage Land, Nightcrawler would be a nice addition. Nightcrawler should speak German, occasionally. Like, saying "Guten Tag" instead of hello or calling all female X-Men "Frauelin". Regarding Nightcrawler & Iceman. If the X-Men require comic-relief characters, these two should be the only candidates. If there are too many X-Men quipsters, the MCU would ruin the X-Men's credibility & just be making Guardians of the Galaxy ft. Mutants. Colossus: Copy Deadpool (Don't Change). He's fine in Deadpool. Gambit: Draw inspiration from the animated series. In the animated series, Gambit is presented as sociable, smart, cunning, sneaky, friendly albeit mysterious & flirtatious with women. Presented as a sociable, calm individual, Gambit is the person that just wants to hang out, unlike Cyclops, who's maybe focused on missions. Being raised by Thieves, Gambit is street-smart & more independent. However, his charming personality was also how he used to manipulate & trick others during his youth as a thief. As shown in the TV show, Gambit can be sarcastic or humorous particularly in heated or tense situations. He'd be known to make a couple of quips/one-liners on occasion to diffuse the tension or mess around. Presented as flirtatious, he is immediately smitten with Rogue, the love of his life. Despite her initial rejection of him because she was insecure of her powers, Gambit still pursued her because of his immediate attraction. They're both shown to love each other with him ignoring the fact that she can't touch others by still being friendly & charming towards her. They should be shown spending quite a lot of time with each other, despite not being capable of physical contact because she is the love of his entire life. His two main traits, as opposed to his occasional sarcastic tone are his Bilingualism & Card Skills. - Bilingualism: Being raised in the Bayou, he is fluent in both Cajun French & English. Occasionally, he can spout some French Phrases like he's done in the comic books.
- Card Skills: Cards are a key aspect of Gambit's character, therefore, he could be an expert at card games e.g. Poker & Solitaire capable of beating anyone with ease. X-Men Origins touched on this because I think he was introduced at a casino table.
Rogue: Presented as a smart & beautiful individual, this Rogue will be more be an independent, friendly, good-hearted individual with a "Heart of Gold". Referring to everyone as "hon" or "sugar," Rogue will speak in her Southern accent that she's always had since her introduction. However, as part of her past, Rogue could be described as rebellious in character. Despite being friendly, Rogue is also quite independent as she is mostly on her own throughout her life. Gambit can be introduced as her love interest & they can be shown socializing with each other, not leaving each other's side. However, his constant advances could leave her frustrated because he couldn't comprehend that she didn't want to hurt him with her powers by touching him. If she will retain her villainous history like her introduction in the comics, Rogue may grow to hate her powers more & more, based on how she has used them in the past. Polaris: A main aspect of her character in the comics & "The Gifted" TV Show was her Bipolar Disorder; Mental State. This affects her moods causing random & spontaneous mood swings. Typically, Polaris is friendly & normal, however she can become depressed & angry if she is angered or saddened; In Distress. This can just be stated as her "anger issues or temper." Since her powers are quite powerful, if she loses control she can be a danger to her surroundings. Maybe Havok has to calm her down via conversation or Professor X with his telepathy. Father-Daughter Relationship: Polaris is Magneto's daughter. As the daughter of Magneto, she may be conflicted about her role as an X-Man & her opposition to the Brotherhood of Mutants because she doesn't desire to oppose her father despite what he stands for. Magneto is her father & she doesn't desire to fight against her own flesh & blood, especially since she still loves him vice-versa. Havok: Copy the Comic Books; Havok is Younger brother of Cyclops. In regards to personality, Havok is the social opposite of Cyclops. Havok is a rebellious, charming, popular, hothead character who, unlike Cyclops, lacks discipline. He often resents Cyclops' authoritarian attitude, presenting an antagonistic relationship between the two brothers. I would recommend that Havok & Iceman be pretty good friends because they're typically rule breakers & introduce Polaris as his girlfriend, like in the comics. Professor X: Introduce Xavier as the mentor figure. Not the protagonist. Establish him as a natural genius, similar to Beast. However, while Beast is more of a technological, physics scientist, Xavier's expertise in the biological field. Xavier is the leading authority on genetics, mutation & psionics. Since he is a paraplegic & isn't on the field, Charles would be more useful as a strategist or tactician, alongside Cyclops. Xavier is a notably a master tactician capable of devising swift responses or devising strategies for long-term operations. As founder & headmaster of Xavier's School For The Gifted Youngsters, he has built a lifetime reputation on being an inspirational, confident, compassionate figure for mutantkind. As a skilled leader, Xavier is the person who helped train mutants to cope with their abilities & how to live in and cope with a world that fears them. FATAL FLAW: Xavier's Dark Side. https://screenrant.com/worst-things-professor-x-done-charles-xavier-xmen/; Comic-Book Xavier isn't the generic good guy. Professor X has engaged in terrible acts throughout comic book history, so this could showcase him off as a morally ambiguous character. Wolverine: Simply, don't make him the central character, to differentiate from the Fox X-Men. He's been a key character in the X-Men trilogy, the Wolverine Trilogy & Days of Future Past. There's so many other characters to focus on. How much more Wolverine is required? Nevertheless, Wolverine will be included. So, I recommend, make Wolverine a team player. At Fox, he mostly did his own thing. So, make him a part of the team more. Idea = Shadowcat & Wolverine Training. Ages of X-Men Main X-Men; 30s-40s (Adults), Younger X-Men Idea (Polaris, Iceman, Havok, Nightcrawler; 20s). Jubilee, Shadowcat, Magik (Teenagers = 17+), Professor X & Magneto (Mid-40 or early 50s). Regarding Characterization, links I used: https://www.writeups.org/, http://www.xmen-supreme.com/index.php, https://marvelanimated.fandom.com/wiki/X-Men_(TV_Series)) submitted by Wrighted-2000 to marvelstudios [link] [comments] |
I make a point of avoiding the news and anything newslike because I already know where this handbasket is going. As far as I'm concerned, if I ever need to waste a few minutes doing something that will ultimately kill me there will always be cigarettes and at least going for a smoke makes for a good stretch of the legs. Unfortunately, I have been exposed to some news recently and I have no choice but to think about it and frankly I hold you all responsible for that.
I'm given to understand that some point in the recent past, Senator John McCain publicly stated his opposition to President Trump's nominee for CIA Director. The subject came up yesterday in a closed-door meeting of White House communications staff and one of the aides in attendance, one Kelly Sadler, remarked that "
it doesn't matter; he's dying anyway." This statement is at plausible on both counts, as at least 50 Senators are expected to vote to confirm the nomination and lately John McCain has been spending a lot of time at home with his terminal brain cancer.
TV news has gone ballistic. I know this because one of my punk-ass coworkers keeps tuning the break room TV to CNN and I haven't yet set the parental controls to block everything but Telemundo. Thus,
this is the kind of hysterical wittering that gets beamed into my eyeballs every time I get up for a coffee: "There's so much more luhhhhhve, and prayurrrrrrrrrh..." The cigs can't kill me fast enough.
2020 is going to be a landslide win for The Donald because the opposition is fighting tooth and nail to score own goals at every opportunity. These harpies are his best promoters, all without an iota of self-awareness. How so? Flash back to 2008, if you will. White America had just enjoyed seven long years of kicking ass and taking names in various 'Stans. Off-duty police officers exercised their Constitutional right to beat the shit out of female bartenders, self-appointed armed weirdos patrolled our streets against
suspicious looking black kids, and the parents of paranoid schizophrenics could comfortably grow their assault rifle collections. Truly it was a golden age.
Then came the dark times - the
social justice times. The President black! Various places Occupied! Tumblr, cultural appropriation, Twitter; intersectionality, Gawker, Black Lives Mattering! Obligatory Bill Murray quotes! The pendulum swung hard. Not only was it no longer OK to shoot black people, but anyone who did received the full force of scorn that an adolescent Internet could muster. Where once it was only a mild faux pas at best to wear an
Indian Native American First Native Injun headdress to a kegger, now anyone doing so was uploaded to the Internet, doxxed, and subjected to an artillery barrage of "literally the worst" "problematic" "privileged" "shitlord" that would have made Erich Ludendorff proud.
By the time the 2016 primaries came around, these hard-left types were feeling their oats to the point where they
pushed Bernie Sanders off his own stage. Bernie Sanders, for chrissake! There's more dignity in a bumfight.
For all that they represented only a small minority of the public, they were what you'd call a
vocal minority to the point where they defined the perception of the Left and the Democratic Party in the minds of white people. Nevermind that the actual state of affairs on the ground didn't change at all between 2008 and 2016. There did not, in fact, turn out to be any Obama FEMA death squads, and in overseas news we actually picked up zero to five new wars (depending on how you count). And yet, every time those screeching Internet feminists caught the front pages with their latest diatribe against some real or imagined sin committed by some idiot, they convinced a few more people that someone needed to get out there and stop them.
Do I need to draw a freakin' diagram? Donald Trump, better known as "that orange clown" back in 2012, earned the GOP nomination by a humiliating margin against a bunch of ordinary Congress critters who were not prepared to deal with the reality that the pendulum had reached its apogee.
Now, when you look at the actual general election results, decades of gerrymandering and blind party loyalty were definitely the foundations for Trump's success. But I can't help but suspect that, in those contested states whose Electoral College votes tipped the balance, it was narrative that won the day. Donald Trump, unashamed and unapologetic narcissist, id embodied, presented himself as being the pussy-grabbing, apprentice-firing, porn-star-fucking, casino-bankrupting superhero who would tell all those whinging cultural Marxists to shut up, shut up, for God's sake shut the hell up already! Leave me alone, stop telling me all the ways I'm wrong and you're better than me, stop the witch burnings of mostly-innocent shmoes, just let me have my unexamined cultural values and leave me alone. Let me tell my stupid, off-color jokes at the office without getting more than an awkward silence.
Which brings us to today. Frothing-at-the-mouth CNN demands Kelly Sadler's blood, radicals feel good about themselves for joining in with the Two Minutes' Hate, and Joe Whitey in Central Time sees a little of himself in this week's crucified sinner. Jesus wept.
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